Why aren't sandals ok?

GozerTheTraveler's picture

Just a quick question...when I started working for Borders, before Seattle's Best came around, I was told that the reason employees had to wear closed-toed shoes was because of the cafe. Back when booksellers worked in the cafe occasionally, I was told that it was some sort of health code violation for employees to wear open-toed shoes. However, one of the managers told me yesterday that I had to change out of my Birks...but since I'm a bookseller, and not allowed in the cafe anymore, why does it matter if I wear sandals?

Is there something in our handbook that gives another reason why we can't wear them?

We were told in my store that we must wear foot-enclosing shoes because it's a personal safety issue. (Which translates into normal-speak as, "Borders doesn't want to get sued because you/a customer dropped a sizable hardbound that broke your foot.")

This is not new policy for BoINC, and I suspect that it's always been one of those "understood" policies that typically didn't get enforced until Seattle's Best blew onto the scene with their far more strict dress code. When I worked at Waldenbooks several years ago, it became policy for us. It was also explained there that it was a safety issue. At least, our store mgr was honest enough to tell us outright that corporate didn't want to have to deal with lawsuits from people who got toes broken because they dropped a boxful of books on sandal-clad feet. Which doesn't explain away that dropping a box of books on any footwear but possibly a steel-toed shoe would likely result in broken bones...but, oh, well.

office monkey's picture

I wear sandels, as do other members of the staff, but then I never work in the cafe.
NoCoHo is right though, if it's for insurance reasons its pretty dumb to think that a pair of tennis shoes is going to stop a book from smashing your toes.

At WB, I was also told it's an insurance issue. I didn't think anything of it because we all wear sandals anyway. However, the first time I ran over my foot with the stupid rolling ladder I thought it was a fluke. I've done it at least 5-6 times, but I know that it's my fault for wearing open toed shoes. Trust me, running over your foot in tennis shoes feels much less painful than in sandals.

Like that stops any of us though.

It is a safety issue, but also a visual issue. A lot of retail requires closed toe shoes simply because a lot of peoples feet should just not be seen. Some people just dont take very good care of them, and then there is the smell issue. Ewwwww!!
I think its similar to stores requiring at least a partial sleeve so as not to expose armpits. Some women dont shave. A lot of customers find stuff like exposed pits and toes offensive. And retail does depend on the customers good will.

is this really a big concern?

The real reason why the open toes shoes are not allowed is spelled out in OSHA regs. The OSHA requirements for protective footwear are found at 29 CFR 1910.136.

Borders would be in violation of OSHA if they allowed open toed shoes since there are rolling and dropping hazards in every part of the store. It does affect insurance of the stores as well but not the way we think. Because Borders has the policy stating that employees are to not wear open toed shoes and you are violating that policy and get hurt at the store, Borders can refuse to pay your hospital bills leaving the burden on you. This is pretty common for corp. environments.

See link below:

http://www.osha.gov/pls/oshaweb/owadisp.show_document?p_table=INTERPRETATIONS&p_id=24639

Hey, first post here, have no idea why this is the one that first motivated me! I don't know about rules and regs, but basically I agree that the 'no open toed shoes' thing is a good idea in a retail environment, regardless of the official stance. Of course, trainers/tennis shoes vs. open toed sandals is academic if something really heavy duty lands on your feet (whole pallet, whole bookshelf…) but otherwise wearing closed shoes instead of sandals really does make a difference.

I always wear trainers / cheap hiking boots because a whole day on my feet makes 'proper' shoes more worthwhile (put it down to age!) but some of my colleagues, while not wearing open toed shoes, do wear the fashion in the UK of ballet pumps / gym shoes, which are still closed toe but definitely offer no protection to the feet.

I have never had a foot injury in work but one colleague had a rather inconsiderate customer drop an oversize hardback book on her which left a nasty gash and huge bruise on the top of her foot. I've had the same thing happen to me and I've suffered no injury because the top of my foot isn't bare and the parts that are covered are just that little bit more protected. And in general it’s so easy to stub your toe or let the corner of a box of stock land on your foot. As it is, I am convinced close toe shoes are only sensible in a physical working environment (no matter how much u think u are just standing around and working a till/answering enquiries) and protect from more injury than u might suspect. And, not to sound too gross, but if a pallet or pallet jack was just starting to roll over your foot, it would catch on your toes much more quickly than the snub-nosed cover of a trainer which you’d have more time to pull away.

P.S I'm basically agreeing with what LolitaBonita said (and don't want to go into the whole shaved armpits / bare feet thing because doesn't that totally sum up what irritates you about what customers feel they can comment upon? i.e. personal appearance? I could rant forever..!)

P.P.S and YES, it really is a big concern, because I spend 5 days of my week in footwear suitable for work. I'm happy that it's not a concern for you but personally, if it changed to a slight heel or a general rule on what footwear we could wear I would have to question my employment there, as foowear has a direct impact on back and neck pain (just as general comfort/preference motivated the original posters).

GozerTheTraveler's picture

Thank you everyone for your helpful posts :) I wish my managers/supes were as eloquent as you all...

People wear sandals all the time in our store. No stories of anyone being injured. Handling the knives used to open boxes strikes me as far more likely to result in injury.

Flyboy, you made a great point. The box cutters can cause great injury. I had an IPT member that cut his arm while cutting a periodicals bundle. The cut got infected and the IPT member was out for 4 days in the hospital with a staph infection. I believe the dust levels in the store contributed to this. We started having the IPT wear gloves when handling the box cutters.

As far as I know OSHA requires for PPE (Personal protection equipment) to be avalible when working with tools that can pose harm. I am not sure if the box cutter counts since it is of a smaller length then a knife you would fine in a meat cutter's shop but it can cause injury.